tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34413602.post4630259416349039620..comments2023-10-16T04:07:42.040-07:00Comments on Applied Strength: Brett Joneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03192435046685650988noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34413602.post-43374753497397835382007-07-31T14:55:00.000-07:002007-07-31T14:55:00.000-07:00Brett--I think I need to clarify even further: sin...Brett--I think I need to clarify even further: since load can be velocity dominant or force dominant, the context in which I was speaking was force dominant. Of course the spine--all of it, must be able to move under the load of velocity and still protect the spinal cord. Failing to train the body to handle these movements is setting up for an injury.<BR/><BR/>That being said, mobility work should be trained first then loaded either through velocity or load second.Geoff Neuperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11429352189298183355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34413602.post-17656296970769409692007-07-30T21:52:00.000-07:002007-07-30T21:52:00.000-07:00Hey Franz, thanks for the plug for the article I w...Hey Franz, thanks for the plug for the article I wrote!<BR/><BR/>I think most coaches in the know are probably saying the same thing; the primary torque/strenth producers are the hips/thighs. The lower back and trunk should only serve as a conduit for transfering force through to the extremities. <BR/><BR/>Some mobility and light strengthening exercise should be performed for maintaining adequate lumbar rotation however. Since rotation is very important to specific life and sporting situations, it is better to focus on teaching people to twist through the thoracic spine, as this is where rotation occurs much more easily.Keats Snideman CSCS, CK-FMS, LMThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06318813485192521177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34413602.post-6266004434146846052007-07-30T11:45:00.000-07:002007-07-30T11:45:00.000-07:00Brett, very interesting debate. My brother wrote a...Brett, very interesting debate. My brother wrote a very good article for T-mag a couple of years ago called "Defending the Saggital Plane" and talks about the very same concept you are addressing here in your post. Most functional trianing gurus encourage to much movement from the lumbar spine and teach people to become more flexible in the lumbar area which we now can be a total dissaster. I understand where Geoff is coming from as well, being able to have motor control and move the entire spine is essential. However, most people have no business doing rotational movements, especially one that involves extreme range of motion until they have established stability and (as you said) the ability to resist movement (which I think is the underrated part of core training.)<BR/><BR/>Nice Brett!<BR/><BR/>here is the article: <BR/><BR/>http://www.michaelboyle.biz/joomla/dmdocuments/defending_the_sagital_plane.pdfFranz Snidemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07214347683076253495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34413602.post-46550660571011752752007-07-26T15:49:00.000-07:002007-07-26T15:49:00.000-07:00Thanks Aaron - there are similarities and things o...Thanks Aaron - there are similarities and things out there to learn from almost everyone.Brett Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03192435046685650988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34413602.post-45859569684254561892007-07-25T19:41:00.000-07:002007-07-25T19:41:00.000-07:00Interesting. I immediately thought of the first pr...Interesting. I immediately thought of the first principle of Taijiquan: "keep the head suspended from above." It's cool that you strength gurus have arrived at the same conclusion.Aaron Fridayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14919420483167662474noreply@blogger.com